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    • #9460
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      We’re at Prevost Ft. Worth for our annual service. After the great experience at the OKC rally with United Engine, I initially planned to have them handle the service, but I had a last-minute change of heart due to some additional issues that needed attention.

      First, I discovered the muffler was blown out. I honestly hadn’t noticed anything unusual with the exhaust noise, but it turns out that ignoring it can lead to bigger problems. I heard about another coach nearby that let a similar issue go too long, and it ended up burning out his Webasto system and damaging wiring.

      Then there were the brakes. All four caliper slide pin boots on the disc brakes were cracked and needed replacing. I realized I should have brought the coach in for chassis service at the six-month mark instead of waiting a full year; those boots are a minor fix. I was able to dress three of the pins that had mild surface rust, but one of the tag pins was seized and had to be replaced.

      This experience reinforced for me how crucial regular service and inspections are. Prevost’s maintenance schedule is likely just the minimum, especially as our coaches age. Overall, I anticipate this service will end up being quite costly.

      #9462
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      Jim,

      I’m not sure how everyone else manages their routine maintenance, but I’ve noticed that Prevost’s current lube schedule is set at 6,250 miles, up from the 5,000 miles for my first coach. I stick with the 5,000-mile interval, and while it may seem like I’m in for service every few trips, it’s worth the effort. Being under the coach gives me the chance to inspect everything closely.

      There have been several occasions where my regular inspections have helped me avoid costly issues. For instance, I discovered hoses installed by the converter that looked fine but were starting to fail. A small drip of antifreeze was my warning sign. I’ve also spotted hub seal leaks before they turned into bigger problems, preventing brake friction material from getting oil-soaked.

      I’ve found issues like the big baffle for cruise air cooling that was about to fall off due to broken bolts. There are countless smaller things I can’t even recall now. The point is, the best maintenance is the kind you don’t have to deal with later because I’m doing these inspections regularly.

      In your case, it’s crucial to have someone who can do more than just grease fittings—someone who understands the importance of checking all areas underneath the coach. You might not have noticed the exhaust issue because it gradually got worse over time, making it sound normal. I had a similar experience with a muffler on my other coach where the problem wasn’t apparent until it was too late.

      #9463
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      For those of us traveling, there are plenty of Prevost facilities across the country where we can stop every 6,000 miles for a lube and inspection. That $200 expense can save us thousands in the long run. Regular check-ups can catch potential issues before they become costly problems!

      #9464
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      Thank you for the heads up.

      #9465
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      If you drop your bus off at a service facility, I strongly encourage you to take the time to watch the technician during the entire process. It’s remarkable how much can change between service intervals and how those subtle shifts can have significant impacts.

      We have many grease fittings, and if one fails to take grease and the technician isn’t diligent, you could face future issues. If you keep returning to the same technician, there’s no guarantee they’ll take the few extra minutes to replace a fitting they previously ignored. The same goes for fittings that ooze grease due to a faulty check.

      What about checking the oil level in the hubs? The back of the wheels can reveal seal leaks, but if the technician overlooks this, you risk running your bearings dry. This is especially critical for drive axle bearings, as low differential lube can lead to even worse problems.

      It’s also important to assess the shocks for signs of failure—look for oil leakage and inspect the bushings. While you’re under the bus, listen for air leaks; it’s a straightforward way to check for issues. Draining the air tanks in the correct sequence can also help verify the check valves are functioning properly. When was the last time you drained those tanks? Moisture in the suspension system can wreak havoc on the Norgren valve train.

      Your air dryer is your first line of defense in the air system. Are you keeping track of when it was last changed? The wet tank can indicate its effectiveness, and if you see oil around where it expels, it’s a sign you’ve waited too long between cartridge changes.

      While you can see tires from the outside, how often do you inspect the inside sidewalls? I once found a nail in the inside sidewall of a tag axle tire that I wouldn’t have noticed otherwise.

      Is everything dry under the coach? If not, identify where the oil, transmission fluid, fuel, or coolant is leaking from. Could it turn into a serious issue?

      When was the last time you or the technician checked the air lines leading to the brake chambers? These hoses flex with suspension travel and can rub against other components. Are they cracked or brittle? A failure here could lead to significant problems. While under the bus, it’s also a good time to release the parking brake and listen for any minor leaks in the brake chambers.

      Check the air bags for signs of wear or rubbing, and inspect the front shocks, which limit up travel in the suspension. It’s possible to pull the top ring right off a shock.

      This is just a quick list and likely not exhaustive, but it illustrates how much there is to look at or have someone inspect when under the coach. A lube job that includes these inspections doesn’t take long, so it’s worthwhile to ensure that anyone greasing the underside is also looking for indications that require further attention. Opting for a cheap lube without thorough checks could end up being very costly in the long run.

      #9466
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      That’s a great point! It’s common to find some oil around the dryer discharge; it’s just part of the system’s nature and doesn’t always indicate that the dryer is nearing the end of its life. It’s important to know your bus and recognize what’s normal for it. Monitoring the amount of oil can help you determine if there’s a change that needs attention, so getting familiar with your specific setup is key.

      #9467
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      I don’t see any oil around the dryer discharge on my bus, but I’ve definitely seen coaches where oil is dripping off the chassis. As Tom mentioned, it’s crucial to know what’s considered “normal” for your setup before you can identify signs that the dryer needs servicing. Personally, I follow a two-year cycle for replacing the dryer.

      #9468
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      Just a quick side note: I’ve found that most technicians appreciate it when I stick around to watch and ask questions. I make sure to stay out of their way so I’m not hindering their work, but I let them know I’m interested in how my coach operates and want to learn as much as I can. I try to be an extra set of hands when they need it and be generally helpful.

      I think they value that I take an interest in their work, that I’m willing to get my hands dirty, and that I’m not just dropping off the bus for a quick fix.

      #9469
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      This was a quick list and is probably not complete, but it should illustrate how much we should be looking at or having someone look at when under the coach. A lube job, even with all the inspections doesn’t take very long so it is really worthwhile to insist whoever is greasing the underside should also be looking for any indications something requires more attention. If all you are looking for is a cheap lube it may turn out to be very expensive in the long run.

      It’s really reassuring to see several Prevost technicians under my coach, using flashlights and pry bars to inspect everything while taking notes. They answer my questions and point things out to me, which gives me peace of mind. It’s comforting to know that experienced people are thoroughly checking it out and know what to look for.

      #9470
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      I just had my shocks changed at Prevost in Ft. Worth on my way to OKC. Out of the eight shocks replaced, only one showed any signs of oil leakage. The technician manually compressed each shock before placing them on his work cart, and interestingly, only two of them returned partially to their normal position.

      The takeaway here is that shocks can be faulty even without visible oil leaks. The difference in ride quality after the change is remarkable!

      #9471
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      Pete,

      I have a couple of questions. Can these shocks really be compressed by hand? That doesn’t seem like it would offer much resistance. Maybe I’m not fully grasping how shocks work.

      Also, could you describe your ride before and after the new shocks? I hadn’t noticed my muffler being loud, and it sounds about the same now, so maybe I’m not aware of what my ride should actually feel like.

      #9472
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      A shock absorber is designed to resist movement. When you hit a bump, properly functioning shocks work against the air bags or springs to minimize compression and control rebound. Without them, our buses and cars would bounce around like the bobble-headed dog in JDUB’s rear window!

      When shocks are worn out, you can easily compress and extend them by hand, much like a bicycle pump. In contrast, new shocks require significant energy to compress and extend, and the movement is slow.

      An oil leak is one way to assess their condition, but another method is to remove them and see how easily you can compress them by hand.

      #9473
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      I noticed that the shocks on our bus have very little compression force but a lot of rebound. If you check the Koni website, they provide a chart showing the rebound and compression characteristics of their shocks. This makes sense, as the air bag does most of the work during compression, while the shock controls the speed of the return.

      #9474
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      Pete what was the Cost of your 8 Shock removal / replace?

      Gary S.

      #9475
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      Kevin, Where did you purchase the Koni’s you installed? And if you don’t mind my asking, how much did they cost.

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